This is a revolving buddy group for women in the same part of their cycles, to compare notes, and symptoms. We also have another buddy group for members who have already ovulated called "The 2ww". Every so often, a moderator will start a new thread for you. Good Luck !
Hello ladies. I just wanted to wish everyone luck in this group. I am now officially 4 DPO with a good thermal shift, so I'm moving over to the 2WW, but I'll still be lurking and following everyone here.
Michele (35) & Scott (35) - DD Sasha Louise, 07 Oct 2008 and DD Kenzie Marie, 03 May 2011
Hi, Ladies! I am a long time lurker... We have been TTC#1 since Nov 2009. My cycle just started, but our fingers are crossed that we will be successful this cycle!
Hi ladies! Welcome Jubilee!
I'm pretty sure I ovulated last night or this morning. I had positive (for me) OPK's Sunday night and Monday morning, so I think I'll consider myself 1dpo starting tomorrow. My cervical fluid has already started to dry up. I hope this is correct, as I will be starting natural progesterone cream tomorrow for the first time. I think I'm going to start temping again (so I can actually confirm ovulation), even though I don't get enough consecutive hours of sleep. We're not TTA, so even slightly inaccurate temperature information will be more helpful than nothing!
Laura, married to Daniel on 12/16/00 Claire, born 6/29/06 Andrew, born 4/20/08
Alright! Have some personals from the last thread to catch up on.
InGoodTime -- yeah, as if things with TTC weren't complicated enough, we also have to have sex! lol. XD Awesome about your goal to lose some weight this cycle!daisy1475 -- thanks for the birthday wishes! And yep, it looks like I did O on Sunday or Monday! I'm not sure that we timed BD right to get pregnant this cycle, but I am actually really excited to have (probably) O'd this early since it would make this cycle three weeks shorter than the last one! My temp rise was on Monday, my chart "looks" good for BD but Sunday morning neither of us "finished" so I'm not counting on it.I'm happy for you getting to have a night of "just for fun"! It definitely makes a difference, makes it less mechanical... you know? I commend you on the changes you plan on making for your next TWW, sounds like you've really had a chance to evaluate your thoughts and emotions about the whole thing, and that your new approach will be healthier for you. Tara2 -- that's awesome that you're going to start running again, I used to love to run (just for fun, not in track or anything serious) when I was a kid... then I got boobs. So now I don't run! But I have been walking/doing the stairs since we live in an apartment. I really need to get in shape, myself. Thanks for your encouragement about doing it anyway even when grumpy, with all my wacky hormones I felt like my hubby was deliberately trying to upset me so I wouldn't want to BD when he didn't want to. :( But I told him that's how I felt and we talked about it. He reminded me that he's on my side and doesn't ever deliberately do mean things to me, and then we had an awesome night. (Finally got the BD I'd been wanting!) : D evobiogirl -- my trick for replying to everybody is that I just copy/paste it all into Notepad, and then delete as I create my replies, lol! It's probably complicating things/over-engineered, but I have computer issues where sometimes I have to shut it down quickly (heating/cooling problems with a fan) so by saving it into Notepad I've got it for later. Congratulations to you on getting fit, as well! And big congrats about your upcoming marriage! What day in May?If you find out how to tell the difference between ovulation and the other O, let me know, 'cause I've wondered the same thing, lol! I'd say that crampiness could certainly be a sign of ovulation, although I don't know if it'd be pre or post. Based on where you are in your cycle, it sounds like it could certainly be a pre-O sign for you. As I learn my own cycle, it looks like cramping post-O is normal for me? But, I'm still learning.Michele123 -- thanks for your sympathy. Thankfully my husband is a very patient man, but it makes me want all the more, to try NOT to be difficult for him! I read something to him from another message board that said "Last night as I was struggling to fall asleep I realized I was either pregnant or super PMSy because I was annoyed at DH for something he hadn't done yet, but was anticipating he was going to do. Hope that is a good sign." and I told him, "I'm sorry we're like this!" but it made him laugh. Like I said, he's wonderful. Sorry things are being funky with your OPKs/CF! Why does your Dr say you have to O by CD19? Hope the BD is enjoyable for you, that ovulation occurs soon, and that it's clear to you when it happens so that you don't have to keep wondering about it.abrakadabra -- yay that you're moving on! Hope you don't come back. jubilee21 -- welcome to you! Glad you joined us. pollyanna -- yay for ovulation! Here's hoping we both get to join the TWW thread soon? I agree with you on temping even though you don't have a consistent sleep schedule, and I'm in the same boat! Last cycle I just tried to make sure I'd gotten 3 hours of sleep before temping, but my temps were all OVER the place. So this cycle I've set an alarm and am temping at that time, then going back to sleep until whenever I get up. Either that's doing the trick or my body's regulating PP anyway, but this has been the more clear and least frustrating cycle to chart so far! (Ok, ok, it's only my 3rd cycle charting, hehe... but still it's getting easier!)
AFM -- pretty much said most of it already... am not so hormonal now, and it's nice to be mellow. Looks like I O'd but I'm waiting for a 3rd high temp in the morning, to confirm it. Everything else about my body and how I'm feeling supports it, but I want to be sure. I'm not sure that we timed BD right but am still very hopeful. Plus I'm very excited just to have O'd this early in my cycle! And otherwise am just trying to get well 'cause I came down with a head cold Monday night. I'm very grateful I can SAH and rest.
Sarah, 25 Geofrey, 28 ~ My Profile Bio ~ My FF Chart ~ My TCOYF Chart
Cycle day # 1 here :(
here is hoping that cycle # 5 will be our baby makin cycle! I have blood work for low progestrone coming up so we will see where that takes us.
Good luck everyone :D
CD23 over here. All neg OPKs through last night. Maybe I'll get a POS tonight. I did have a bit of blood in my EWCM last night... which may have been a 1st (since I've not been v good at checking CM til this cycle, I don't know if it's a 1st.) DH had a SA on Monday, so we DTD last night - felt like it had been forever!
Leedle- I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but if you've had a head cold, that might account for the slightly elevated temps.... that may have happened to me in Nov. I had head cold and had a few pretty huge temp spikes which still appear to coincide with O, but maybe they didn't?
Took 8 cycles, but we got there. And then some.... it's !
Me 30; DH 30
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Tobias John & Quinlan Howard born 1/10/11. Toby was 4 lb 3 oz, 17.5 in. Quin was 4 lb 8 oz, 18.5 in. Arrived 33w2d due to PPROM.
ttcmama -- sorry you got AF and had to come back to us. : ( Keep us posted about your upcoming blood work, if you can. I hope things become clear once you get the results back and that you're able to take the next steps towards your BFP. rlilyg -- hope you ovulated! Maybe you'll have a clear temp shift to make it obvious? Glad you and your hubby got to BD again, I definitely hear you on it feeling like forever in between times, sometimes.
And thanks for your advice about the temp spike coinciding with being sick! I know you don't mean anything negative by it, and appreciate you sharing your experience. I actually was wondering the same thing when I went to bed last night, after posting. My hubby says I don't feel feverish, but I'm not counting it out.This morning my temp was lower, but I know I was really stuffed up and breathing through my mouth. So, we're just have to wait and see what happens, lol! FF gave me cross-hairs indicating O, but again I'm not going to assume it's accurate just yet. It actually surprised me that they set the coverline so low.
Some personals from previous group since I've been outta the loop for a few days...
Thanks leedlefishy ! Been keeping an eye on you too. Sorry you've been having hormonal issues. I think we've all been there. It sucks, knowing you're being completely ridiculous, but unable to turn it off. for the early O and hope you get over that cold soon.ingoodtime - GL on getting rid of the last infamous 'last ten'!! Ugh. You can do it!Thanks Daisy. Yeah, think we'll be doing the same this cycle too. Holy moley you're on a lot of supplements! That's dedication. Don't worry about working out in the 2ww. You're not going to jog the embryo out. If that happened, a lot of us wouldn't be here. Stick to all your good intentions!! Now I just have to locate mine and get back on to that yoga mat...tara- yeah, I don't know what is up with all my chart issues. It would be nice if the damn sw would just behave! It's bad enough that it's still not on the right day. *muttering darkly*good luck in the 2ww abraand pollyanna!!
for you jubilee!
welcome back ttcmama. I'm one cycle of ttc ahead of you. Didn't think it would take this long when we first read the book, did we?
AFM: CD7 here. Been taking b complex for the last few cycles hoping to lengthen my LP/stop early spotting, only to realize today while reading some stuff here that I'm not taking NEARLY enough B6. I was thinking of starting vitex but I think I'll up my B6 first and see if that helps. I have been taking the Nature Made brand from Safeway, I think, and I'm sure it's great for health but it apparently only has 5mg of the B6 and that's about 45 less than I should be taking.
Job is still uncertain. FDIC kicked down our doors Friday night and now we're a new bank. Going good so far, but it's looking like I might have to either say 'adios' to my job, or sign on for an hour and a half or more commute every day. Ugh. Remains to be seen. Cross your fingers or shoot some prayers my way that I get to stay where I am.
As for TTC, I think we'll continue with the 'throwing caution to the wind', as Daisy put it. I'd love to be pregnant, but I know that it's not the best time right now. But you know what? There is no 'best time' and even my boss reminded me of that the other day. So I'm going to stick around here in the TTC and waiting to O groups, because I love you ladies.
Me: 26, DH:27 Married 4 years TTC and charting since 8/11/09 10/21/09, 3/2/10, 4/11/10, 8/12/10 BFP 11/17/10First heard heartbeat on 1/5/11 on home fetal heart detector, thrumming away at about 162 bpm. Yay! due July 31st
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Manda26 -- I'm glad you're going to stick around with us, it's good to have you!! Keep keeping us posted about your job, will be thinking about you. Glad things are so-far-so-good, hope they stay that way or improve.
Thanks for your well wishes regarding my cold and my O. I hope I'm starting to get better... at least, my symptoms are changing! And about my cycle, I'm going back and forth between excited and confused, lol! My FF chart says I did, but the coverline is low. My TCOYF chart says I didn't, and the coverline looks more reasonable but I'd rather have O'd.
Plus I'm having chart issues again, so it's got extra temps that are inaccurate, just 'cause I was playing around to see what it would do with additional temps. Speaking of charts working or not - I can see yours, now! Yay!
Manda – with the job situation. There is almost definitely no best time for this stuff. My mother was initially nagging me about my “career” when I told her we wanted to TTC. She was like “not that I don’t want to be a grandma, but….” And I thought, ‘well, do tell me when is the best time to introduce something into your life that will change everything and turn you on your head??’
Leedle – with the coverline. Despite the fact that the coverline is not physiological, we always seems to bow down to it, don’t we?! Ha.
AFM – CD24. No POS OPK last night. But we DTD. Fortunately, despite a v. small temp jump today, I’ve still got EWCM, so still waiting…. Tick tock…..
Manda26 - I have 2 other little ones, the 2nd took 4 months but after reading TCOYF, temping and charting I realised that I have a shorter (10 day) luteal phase and low progestrone (only my thoughts). However I became pregnant a month after a chemical pregnancy and didn't think anything more about it. Now it seems my luteal phase and prog. problems are kicking me in the butt again! Thankfully I got a Dr who is going to run some tests, so we shall see this month what comes from that. I am also thinking of vitex, but I think the B6, B12 and maca worked well for my luteal phase and spotting so maybe I will stick with that :)
Also just wanted to say that when my husband and I were ttc our 2nd lo, my husband was made aware of a possible closure of his company in the future. When I was 5 months along (and also a stay at home mum), when he lost his job of 12 years as the company did decide to close. Everything worked out fine and can honestly say I am so eternally grateful that we both decided to continue to keep ttc when things were so uncertain, we are so blessed with our precious little ones, and the few weeks of stress and worry are now far gone. My mother alway told me that there is never a perfect time as the future is unpredicatable, i'm so glad I listened to her! :)
Rlilyg - sometimes I think it is almost better when we don't tell our realitives that we are ttc! My mum and sister mean well but ask every month if i'm expecting "yet"! I feel like saying "Don't worry guys, i'll let you know when it happens!" seriously do they expect that I could make it 9 months without them knowing.?! lol!
leedle - sorry about feeling sick, I hope you feel better and your temps get sorted out soon :)
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Manda - BTW. I believe some vitex supps have B6 too... I think mine does. I take it only sporadically when I'm not randomly worried it's going to mess with my somewhat regular... but long.... O dates. And I assume you're taking a multi -- which would also have B6 in it. Finally, I have heard that you should choose a B complex supp? I haven't read about it in a while, but I think some of the seasoned pros around here have suggested that....
AFM- I have decided to start introducing green tea into my daily routine. 1 "cup" (12 oz mug, I think) in the afternoon.... to boost EWCM. I can't help but be drawn in by that study out of Kaiser Permanente in Oakland which stated that women were found to double their chances of conception with just 1/2 cup of green tea per day. I mean, if it's not really true, at least green tea is good for me!
rlilyg -- I know! It's weird how much I'm paying attention to that silly coverline... thanks for your understanding! This is the first cycle I've charted where I'm seeing the possibility of O as it occurs (instead of way after the fact) so I think that's part of why it's such a big deal to me, too. I hope you O soon if you haven't already... is it more likely to dry up immediately after O, or another day after?
And wow, that study about green tea and EWCF is interesting! I hope you get excellent results. Do you know if it'd be better to try green tea, or Mucinex, first? Or both? I wasn't charting when we conceived our son, but I know I was sick at the time. So I'm suspicious that taking meds for my cold did the trick for my CF, since we'd been non-preventing for a year prior with no known conception. Maybe green tea is for quantity and Mucinex is for quality?
ttcmama -- thank you! I am starting to feel much better. Hopefully will be well by the weekend. My temp was up soo much this morning (highest it's EVER been!) so now I really don't know what to think. At this point I figure it could be progesterone, fever, or a combination of both... but I don't feel feverish, and I do feel like I've ovulated. So we'll see how the next few temps play out.
Also, thanks for sharing your experience about dealing with the "right" time to TTC. We have some friends and relatives who are happy for us either way, and some who feel we should be growing our family in specific ways. It's all well-meant, but not always easy to take.
Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome!
Manda26: Even though I haven't been trying as long as many people here, I definitely didn't think it would take very long at all. I thought after charting and learning as much as I had that we would be able to time everything just right and we would be on our way… I will keep my for you and your job - that everything works out. I think you are right in taking TTC as it comes, who knows what the world has in store for us in the next few years, much less next month!
Rlilyg & ttcmama: I agree, I thought about tell my mom/family about TCC and then quickly changed my mind. That is just way to much family drama for me to even want to try and take on! I can just hear my mom now: "Your house isn't big enough and you are going to need x, y and z…" Plus, my sister is engaged and planning her wedding for the summer - she will be convinced that any pregnancy is an attempt to sabotage her special day. Because when DH and I are , that's obviously what we are thinking about
AFM: I am coming along.. its still really early in my cycle. But I am a bit concerned about the length of my period for the past 2 cycles. It has been unusually short and light. It was so unusual last cycle that I thought I might have been mistaken and it was just heavy spotting. And the same thing happened with this period too... but after doing some googling and reading around these forums, it looks like its within the "normal" length. It might also have to do with my thyroid medication (I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism early last year before starting TTC). But I could also just be paranoid, since between TTC and this hypothyroidism stuff, I seem to be hyper-vigilent about all the workings of my body and what ever is going on...
Jub- hilarious! what IS IT with sisters?!? I don't have one, but all my friends with sisters have had these kinds of issues, or worry about causing them.... and I know what you mean about paranoia. i was just thinking that they really should call this site "your fertility takes charge of YOU!" before my GP visit a couple weeks ago, I thought I had PCOS. Then the GP thought I have a slightly enlarged thyroid, but the TSH is normal... so I've scoured everywhere for "remedies" for things I don't even have! ridic.
leedle - i don't really know what the deal is with green tea. one idea is it's the polphenols (antioxidants) that promote fertility. the other idea, and this is often a factor in human trials, is that people who drink green tea are already practicing other healthy habits that may promote fertility. with human behavior studies it can be hard to pinpoint the real cause of something. and of course, drinking more tea means you're taking in more fluid, which everyone around here pushes, in terms of boosting CM. I think, with your cold, it's like a no brainer right now! I haven't tried any of the other stuff (mucinex or robitussin), so I don't know much about them. I'm hesitant to take multiple meds everyday. Oh and I did take mucinex once when I was sick and it made me totally spacey. As for the fever stuff, I can't say I felt feverish when I had my head cold back in Nov, but my temp jumped higher than usual, although not high enough that I'd say I noticed it as feverish - it was a 'who knows' kind of thing - maybe the little guys fighting my cold made my temp go up and/or maybe it was the O that happened at the same time?
Well, just a quick note... I'm CD8 and I should O next Thursday. I have no idea what our chances are this month. We got the SA results back, and they are low. I don't know the exact numbers, and they've asked us to do it again. And we will.. as soon as this fertile time is over. We haven't started our BD this cycle yet as we've barely seen each other - stupid shiftwork. I'm just hoping to get 2 or 3 shots in before next Thursday. But I won't be surprised if this isn't our month. OF course, it could very well be. So we still have to try. :)
Anyways, just wanted to let you know I'm alive - still. I'm exhausted today. I was up late last night at my very first NHL game and didn't sleep well last night.. I keep telling myself I can sleep in on Saturday. :) But I still need to get through tomorrow.
Marijke
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TTC#1 since August 2009 - Feb 2010, June 2010
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OPKs, temps and CM. Taking Vit B6, Folic Acid, Prenatals, Maca Root, Green Tea, Vitex, Red Raspberry leaf, etc. etc. etc.
Me - 36 - All normal blood/urine test results - HSG March 10, 2010 - showed open tubes, but suspected polyps. Sonahysterogram confirms multiple polyps. Appointment on November 17, 2010 with the fertility specialist. Need to lose weight before she'll help us.
Him - 38 - Preliminary SA - low count. 2nd SA - Still low, but good motility, etc. .
Manda- woops! you totally ARE taking a B complex. missed that. my bad!
AFM- I am a royal idiot. Don't they ALWAYS tell you to read the damn directions before you use the OPKs and HPTs? Alas, I did not do that. I bought the a diff brand of OPK than I used last time. I was testing in the evenings. I read the directions last night, finally, because I was totally expecting O. Sure enough, I was supposed to use FMU and stop drinking at least 2 hours before testing.... totally failed on BOTH accounts! I'd been getting the faint lines for several days and then nothing last night. So I realized my pee was super diluted and wondered if it was a problem. Um yeah of course! So I tested this morning and pretty sure I got a POS. And had a big temp jump, too. So I think I caught the tail end of the surge. Of course, the S/W is trying to tell me that I will O in the next couple of days, but I think did last night... Pretty sure the CM is gone today.... what a moron! So I'll keep an eye on the temps, but I may be off to the TWW.
Manda - glad you are sticking around. Yeah, I am on a lot of supplements!! I have kind of introduced them month by month (maca root is the latest ), but now I feel like a geriatric with all the pills I take! So far so good with the jogging. In previous months I've been worried that letting my heart rate / temp get high might be preventing implantation. But the past few months I've limited my exercise post-O and still no BFP, so I might as well keep running.
LeedleFishy - I hope you are feeling better and your fever is gone. How frustrating that it would happen the same time as you are O-ing - it makes it very difficult to tell. Are you using OPKs or checking your CP? My temps and CM can be a bit hard to read, so I have just started checking CP. Though it does gross me out a bit... (very strange that it does, given that I've come to think of EWCM as 'lovely'!!!) Hope you have O'd and managed to get some BD in, despite your cold.
Marijke - sorry to hear about your DH's SA. How bad is it? Is it something that zinc supplements might assist with, or has your doctor recommended any medical assistance?
welcome jubillee & ttcmama. I agree with you both that it's best (for us at least) not to tell anyone about ttc. It can take a loooong time, and a badly-timed 'are you PG yet?' could result in a serious strain to relationships!! We haven't told anyone, which is why I appreciate having the ladies here to chat with. :-)
rillyg - you crack me up - I agree this site should be called 'your fertility takes charge of YOU'! BTW, I have a similar problem with OPKs. The ones I am using now say to limit fluid intake for 4 hours before. Well, with trying to take in as much water (and green tea) as possible to increase EWCM, that is just not possible!! So I just note when I get a line and if it is darker/lighter than previous (some months I never get a true +ve) and kind of figure out from there when I think I might be about to O. It only works for me because I get a fade-in fade-out though. That said, I just had a very positive OPK, mostly because I've been too busy to drink much water today.
AFM - well, today is cd14 and looks like I am going to O cd15 or 16. I had some nice EWCM yesterday, but was too tired (and irritable - should have known O was imminent) to DTD last night. We BD'd this morning though and I got a nice +ve OPK this afternoon. Will try to get some more BDing in over the next few days and hopefully confirm O soon.
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Hi ladies...
this is just gonna be a quickie, ha ha, sorry if i don't get personals to everyone, it's not cause I'm not thinking of ya...
Manda- glad you are still here... well, you know what I mean, right? As long as you are still ttc that is. And I think I may start some B6, or at least pick up my bcomplex again, along with my prenatal, since it prob wouldn't hurt.
Leedle- sorry to hear you've been sick. How are you feeling today? DD is sick again the last couple days but knock wood the rest of us are healthy at the moment. I am very glad that I did pick up my running again 2 days ago, and am planning to go out again today. It is hard living in an apartment, isn't it?
daisy- you remind me I should get in some green tea... I have toyed with the idea of vitex or maca lately. But with DH and I now not exactly even TTW, more like just not really avoiding, I guess there is not much point. There is a chance of conception pre- PPAF but it's quite small if you're eco-nursing, which i am. So we'll see. Glad you got your + and good luck!
Me: Im sure it doesn't mean much but have had the best ewcf in months now lasting 4-5 days! This is a record. Haven't temped in several days so think i may check it tomorrow, JIC ;)
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