I've been on progesterone since 14dpo, my betas are horrible (see siggie). I go in for my 5th beta and an office visit on Monday (26dpo). Doc wanted me to stay on the progesterone until then. I've had no bleeding since last Monday (19dpo) and that was one little tiny drop, literally one spot. I'm assuming the embryo is long gone, but just wondering how long the progesterone will delay the passing of the tissue. I've searched online a lot for an answer to this, but haven't been able to find a definitive one (some say it will delay, some day it won't, but either way, nobody says for how long), I guess because nobody really knows, but have of you had any experience with this? I hate to delay this more than I need to. Thanks ladies!
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29 and the 3 furry ones11 years on BCP. Stopped in March 2010 and started TTC with FAM. I've since struggled with late and low progesterone 9/2/2010 5w5d (Cycle #3) 12/22/2010 6w P4 at 13dpo was 7.02 (Cycle #5)
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I'm sorry for your loss.
I'm not sure if you're on a natural progesterone cream. I had a chemical pregnancy which ended around 5wks. I stopped using my natural progesterone cream on 19DPO (started spotting, it was brown though). I started bleeding 21DPO but stopped that same day., thought I had passed everything that day. I barely spotted until 26DPO and finally passed the tissue 27DPO. I'm still bleeding a little, not as much as 27DPO. I'm not sure if the progesterone delayed my m/c. It may have been my beta levels which was 1452 when i started to spot.
I'm sorry for your loss too!! Chemical or not, a loss is a loss. I am not using NPC. It is a compounded progesterone suppository, it's a prescription. My level when they tested was 7.02. Did you start spotting before you went off the NPC, or after?
Thank you...I started spotting while I was on the NPC. at 20DPO I knew something was wrong..had a doctor's appointment and left the examination table soaked with brown blood. I stopped using the NPC and allowed nature to take it's course...
I haven't been through this, but lbm and yashieka, I wanted to tell you both that I am so sorry for your losses. My heart aches for you both.
Aww, thanks! See, I am not spotting, which is so weird. Of course I've been scouring the interrnet finding stories of low betas and still having healthy pregnancies, such a small chance, but a chance nonetheless. I still 'feel' pregnant and my temps are still up, which I know could be a direct result of the progesterone. I should know more tomorrow with my 5th beta and office visit. Keeping my , even though I know the chance of this working out is barely there. Anyway, that's why I was wondering how long the progesterone would delay the onset of the bleeding, if at all. When speaking with my dr's office, they couldn't understand why I hadn't started bleeding yet and figured I probably would over the weekend, but here it is Sunday night and nothing yet. I don't know.. it's just weird! I guess I'm weird!!
lbm436:Aww, thanks! See, I am not spotting, which is so weird. Of course I've been scouring the interrnet finding stories of low betas and still having healthy pregnancies, such a small chance, but a chance nonetheless. I still 'feel' pregnant and my temps are still up, which I know could be a direct result of the progesterone. I should know more tomorrow with my 5th beta and office visit. Keeping my , even though I know the chance of this working out is barely there. Anyway, that's why I was wondering how long the progesterone would delay the onset of the bleeding, if at all. When speaking with my dr's office, they couldn't understand why I hadn't started bleeding yet and figured I probably would over the weekend, but here it is Sunday night and nothing yet. I don't know.. it's just weird! I guess I'm weird!!
lbm436, just wanted to say I'm thinking about you and sending you LOTS OF for tomorrow! I'm hopeful for you, if it is hard to be hopeful yourself You seem to be in good spirits though and that is good to see!
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It is the sudden drop in progesterone that triggers bleeding. If your levels were low to begin with and you are on an RX strength then the fall in your level may not have been enough to trigger the bleed. It probably won't happen until you stop the supp. Stay on until you are satisfied the PG is not viable and then stop. So sorry you are gonig through this. My thougts and prayers are with you.
I've had 4 miscarriages--3 of which I took progesterone supplements for. My advice is to keep taking the progesterone as long as there's a chance the pregnancy is viable. If you are still having strong symptoms, hold out until you are certain. With my last miscarriage I had horrible betas. They were rising, but didn't even double in an entire week. I asked for an ultrasound to rule out viability and my baby was there with a faint heartbeat. I did end up losing the pregnancy shortly afterwards, but that was probably due to my immune problems I only just found out about and started treating. I hope you have a happy ending!
|'m sorry to hear about the hardship you are experiencing. I'm hoping and praying for you that all is well and I'm going to keep checking in to see how things are going. Hope your little bean is a sticky one and if not this time hopefully the next.
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Thanks ladies. I'm basically going to copy and paste what I wrote in my other post since it kind of fits:
I guess it's fitting that this pregnancy ends on the same gestational day as the last one.. weird, isn't it? Although, I am still not bleeding, but my hcg dropped to 15.7 today. They want a repeat next week to make sure it drops below 5. I had a long chat with the doc during my office visit, she told me to stop the progesterone, obviously, and I confessed that I lied about my LMP.. lol. I told them Nov 10th, because I didn't need any questions such as "what do you mean, you're only 4 weeks, you should be 6!" She set me up with an appt with a specialist. He deals with infertility more, which isn't my problem, I'm getting pregnant just fine, just not staying pregnant, but we'll talk about that. I'm going to get a blood draw at my next 7dpo to check for progesterone, and whatever else they check for. Good news is that they are not making me have another loss before taking action, so I feel good about that. I told her about my charting, and she wasn't sure if this doctor would be open to that or not, but she told me to bring them along. She also told me to take a few months (cycles) off, but for me, that could be a whole year... so we'll probably take this cycle off, and as she said as long as my next "real" AF is normal, not too heavy, not too light, etc, then we should be ok to TTC again. I will also do the progesterone from O to AF (or BFP and beyond) next time.
I found this interesting as well, the doc was saying how women have had false positive HPTs (positive HPT, negative beta). I asked her if she actually believed in false positives, wouldn't that just be a chemical? She said, "well it's the same day", and I said "well that makes sense because hcg leaves the blood before the urine, so that would make sense". I don't think she got it, but oh well, I wasn't about to get into a whole debate with her on the principles that FAM has taught me vs traditional medicine. LOL.
All in all, I am sad, but definitely expected this. If my beta had gone up, they would have thought it was ectopic, and I would much rather have a straight m/c than an ectopic and risk losing a tube. Thank you ladies for your support, thoughts and prayers, it has meant so much to me. I really don't know what I would do without TCOYF. One day, we'll get our sticky baby, just not this time...
to all of you for being so wonderful!